# This is how we fix traffic

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Podcast: [It Turns Out](https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-turns-out-7561721)
Published: 2026-02-20T16:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://itturnsoutshow.com/episode/mike-manville
Audio file: https://episodes.captivate.fm/episode/02e2b55e-d8f8-405d-b81c-f4e34765a53a.mp3
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## Resource

Traffic isn’t just an inconvenience; it’s a thief. It robs you of time, health - and sometimes sanity. But the "obvious" fixes, like widening freeways or upgrading subways, often leave us stuck in the exact same spot. In this episode of It Turns Out , Kara Miller talks with UCLA urban planning expert Michael Manville about how to really fix traffic (it’s doable). Discover why the one scientific solution to gridlock is uniquely "uncontagious" among politicians, but quite popular among those who’ve experienced it. How do you get traffic to move at 50mph? Here’s your answer. Did you know you can also watch the show? Subscribe to the show on YouTube!

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