# The Grief Paradox with David Ferrugio

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Published: 2026-06-02T07:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

What happens when the worst day in American history becomes the day that changes your life forever? This week, Nurse Julie sits down with David Ferrugio , creator of DEAD Talks and author of the upcoming book You’re Not Dead Yet , for a powerful conversation about grief, resilience, and what it means to keep moving forward after unimaginable loss. After losing his father on 9/11 at just 12 years old, David shares what it was like to watch that day unfold, the hope he held onto that his dad might still come home, and the strange reality of having the world mourn a loss that was deeply personal. Julie and David explore the strange realities of loss, the guilt and questions that often come with it, why sharing our stories can help us all heal, and the lesson David learned far earlier than most: life can change in an instant. It's an honest, surprisingly funny, and deep conversation that asks the question: if tomorrow isn't guaranteed, why do so many of us keep acting like it is? Pre-Order a copy of David’s new book, You’re Not Dead Yet , releasing on September 8th. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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