# The Gift of Desperation with JB Copeland

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Published: 2026-08-11T07:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

What if the worst thing that ever happened to you is actually the thing that saves you? JB Copeland had football dreams, a growing faith, and a job as a youth pastor. But behind the scenes, he was battling addiction, and getting very good at hiding it. Until he finally hit the point where he couldn’t run from it anymore. This week, Nurse Julie sits down with JB for a brutally honest conversation about addiction, sobriety, loss, faith, and that awful empty feeling we’re all so desperate to fill with something. JB and Julie open up about their own struggles with sobriety, what happens when faith isn’t the right prescription, and the danger of having an entire community help you stay in denial. They also get into JB’s idea of living in the “sappy medium,” his rise as a social media star, and what happens when the person the internet knows starts feeling very different from who you actually are. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info .

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