# Learning to Love (Hate?) the Porsche 911

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Podcast: [It's Not the Car](https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-s-not-the-car-6747786)
Published: 2025-10-22T03:10:49+00:00
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We’ve driven nearly all of ’em. Nearly every road model, plus some great race cars and extended family—a 934 and 935, a Daytona-winning Sixties 2.0-liter, a Rothmans 962, some 959s and RSRs, even Jerry Seinfeld’s 1964 “Butzi” shorty. Why do people love (and hate) the Porsche 911? Are the good ones worth the money? Can a reasonable person grow to love a great 911 if they don't like the things to begin with? Cliché questions. We hit them, then go deeper: What do you learn strapping into all that unobtainium? Ross and Sam have some rare wheel hours with Porsche's finest. And they might have some answers. *** SPECIAL GUEST: This episode marks the return of the legendary Kyle Kinard, formerly of Road & Track! *** IN THIS EP: Ross battling 911s as a BMW factory driver — Alois Ruf tossing Sam the keys to the “Yellow Bird” CTR prototype and telling him to rip around Germany for an afternoon — Sam lapping a Le Mans-winning 934 and a Fabcar 935 on the same day for R&T — Ross racing an RSR at Daytona with a bunch of babies — Sam writing the world’s first track test of a Singer-restored 911 — and more! (Warning: There's also big Porsche-nerd-speak.) This show’s format rotates weekly, because squirrel. We call this format “MY LIFE WITH.” This episode was produced by Sam Smith. ** Who We Are + Spicy Merch: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.ItsNotTheCar.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ** Support It’s Not the Car: Contribute on Patreon ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.patreon.com/notthecar⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ** Topic suggestions, feedback, questions? Let us know what you think! ⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠INTCPod@gmail.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠ ** Check out Sam's book! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Smithology: Thoughts, Travels, and Semi-Plausible Car Writing, 2003–2023⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ** Where to find us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/intcpod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠…

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