# David Grusch Calls Out Former DNI James Clapper

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Podcast: [It’s a Very Exciting Time](https://stenobird.com/podcast/it-s-a-very-exciting-time-5781023)
Published: 2026-01-19T03:22:47+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/very-exciting-time/episodes/David-Grusch-Calls-Out-Former-DNI-James-Clapper-e3drocf
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## Resource

We’re kicking off the new year with two new interviews with UAP whistleblower David Grusch, who drops some juicy new details, including that he was partially read into government UFO programs, that there are multiple feuding programs with no central leadership, and that former DNI James Clapper managed the UFO crash retrieval program. You can find show notes and references at our website, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠VeryExcitingTime.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ , or support us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠patreon.com/VeryExcitingTime⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ . 00:00:00 Introduction 00:09:30 Fox News Interview 00:24:30 Megyn Kelly Interview

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