# Surprised By Grace Book Discussion Ep 5 Ch 13-15

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Published: 2026-01-28T12:30:00+00:00
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## Resource

In episode 5, hosts explore Father Kevin Joyce's impact on sacred music in the Diocese of San José and at Saint Patrick's Seminary. Doctor Jennifer Donelson-Nowicka, Director of Sacred Music at Saint Patrick's, recalls how Father Kevin modeled a deep love of Gregorian Chant. Father Manuel Sousa shares his insights on Father Kevin's time as a seminarian. All episodes include a spoiler-free chapter summary. Recommended, but not required : b ook purchase information can be found here: https://a.co/d/1AZtf0h or at your favorite bookseller. This episode is viewable on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/701zJ73lEyU

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