# What Next? Bridging the trust gap

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Podcast: [Investec Focus Radio SA](https://stenobird.com/podcast/investec-focus-radio-sa-680399)
Published: 2026-04-02T16:17:00+00:00
Episode link: https://iono.fm/e/1662777
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## Resource

In this episode of What Next?, Professor Mike Kenny (Cambridge) and Jacinta Koolmatrie examine the breakdown of trust between communities and institutions. They discuss how centralised governance and economic shifts have driven local grievances, and argue that rebuilding trust requires sharing power, working at community pace, and supporting locally led solutions like community wealth building and Indigenous-led approaches. CHAPTERS 00:00–09:00: Fracture, grievance and the limits of institutions 09:00–21:00: Power, disconnection and when listening fails 21:00-34:00: Place, community knowledge and what actually works 34:00–48:00: Stories, legitimacy and shaping the future What Next? · Investec Focus Radio SA

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