# Word of God: 3. Holy Grail

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Podcast: [Intrigue](https://stenobird.com/podcast/intrigue-6878178)
Published: 2025-02-26T06:45:00+00:00
Episode link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0028bhr
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A biblical scholar's dramatic last-minute announcement at a packed debate hints at a fragment that could rewrite history. On a winter's night in 2012, an extraordinary claim electrifies a university auditorium in North Carolina - the discovery of what could be the earliest known Christian text, written within decades of Jesus's life. Through exclusive interviews, investigative journalist Ben Lewis reveals how this announcement connects to a meeting one night in an Oxford professor's chambers, where precious gospel fragments were laid out on a pool table. He uncovers how the Green family's fervent quest for biblical artefacts intersected with the world of elite academia. Their representatives were desperate to buy the four gospel fragments - including one potentially dating to the first century. But as scholars wait years to find out more, questions mount about that fragment in particular and what exactly is the professor's role. From the gothic halls of Christ Church Oxford to heated debates in American universities, Lewis follows papyrologist-turned-detective Roberta Mazza as she pieces together clues from social media posts, YouTube videos, and academic papers. What she uncovers raises troubling questions about the relationship between wealthy collectors, prestigious scholars, and the verification of sacred texts. Presented by Ben Lewis Produced by Clem Hitchcock Executive producers: Philip Abrams and Jago Lee Story editor: Andrew Dickson Sound design by Richard Courtice Original music by Max de Wardener Commissioning editor: Daniel Clarke Commissioning executive: Tracy Williams Assistant commissioner podcasts/digital: Chris Walsh-Heron A TellTale production for BBC Radio 4 Episodes of Intrigue: Word of God are released weekly on Wednesdays, wherever you get your pod…

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