# Trump 2.0 Changes and Staying Optimistic

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Podcast: [Into The Planet Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/into-the-planet-podcast-934550)
Published: 2025-01-20T13:52:12+00:00
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## Resource

Trump 2.0 starts today. Jill Heinerth and Robert McClellan share how Trump's 2nd administration may influence every day American and Canadian life. Jill and Rob don't always agree on the outcome of a MAGA presidency.

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