# #31 - Cole Wehrle: "The Cole Visitation"

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Podcast: [Intertextual Experience: A Board Game Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/intertextual-experience-a-board-game-podcast-6581735)
Published: 2025-01-13T08:51:11+00:00
Episode link: https://rss.com/podcasts/intertextualcardboardexperience/1844697
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Intertextual Cardboard Experience is excited to start the new year in atypical fashion, and it couldn’t be more exciting. Cole Wehrle, Creative Director at Leder Games and Co-Founder of Wehrlegig Games, joins the show, and I had the bright idea of having us not talk about board games… In all seriousness, we do talk directly about board games a handful-ish times, but, for the most part, those thoughts are scattered between some deep and personal insights that Cole shares about a couple of other things: reading (specifically Pynchon) and running. Through Cole’s reflections on these topics, approaching a text where it’s trying to meet you, and other ideas that Cole elaborates a lot more eloquently than I could put here, beautiful intersections in these hobbies are highlighted, demonstrating how those intersections translate into lifestyle choices and creative approaches. Wehrlegig Games Leder Games Cole on Bluesky Introduction (0:00) A little bit of context behind the idea of the episode and a formative gaming memory. “Beyond the Board Game” (10:00) This section explores Cole’s experiences and thoughts reading Gravity’s Rainbow (amongst other related topics). “What does running mean to you?” (58:26) Short answer: a lot (for both of us). But Cole shares a powerful account of his running history here, and we just chat about running for a bit. Wrap-up Questions (1:26:00) A text on Cole’s mind and what work you should be on the lookout for. Random note: Listening back to this episode, I noticed that I said some iteration/tense of "(insert person here) tried to do (insert something here)" a couple of times, and I say that with no negative connotation. It's meant to be something where I'm trying to acknowledge authorial intent, not saying that whoever tried to do something didn…

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