# Teacher Archive: Jerry Wagner & Pat O'Leary | The Jesuit Lineage

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Podcast: [International Enneagram Association Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/international-enneagram-association-podcast-6400720)
Published: 2025-11-27T13:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.internationalenneagram.org/
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## Resource

In this episode of the International Enneagram Association podcast, we speak with Dr. Jerome “Jerry” Wagner and Patrick O’Leary, two pioneers in the Enneagram field. Patrick is a founding member of the IEA and co-author of the first Enneagram book, and Jerry is the author of the “Enneagram Spectrum of Personality Styles: an Introductory Guide” and an honorary founder of the IEA. This conversation dives into the rich history of the Enneagram as a tool, a model and an organization through these teachers’ individual and collective stories. Connect with us: Web: internationalenneagram.org IEA Enneagram Experience 2025: ieaexperience.com Join the email list: administration@internationalenneagram.org Dr Jerome Wagner: Web: enneagramspe ctrum.com Web: training.enneagramspectrum.com Web: wepss.com Email: jeromewagnerphd@gmail.com Patrick O’Leary: LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/patrick-h-o-leary-5b928760 Seth "Creek" Creekmore:  IG: @_creekmore Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast Pod: Awareness to Action Enneagram Podcast Pod: Delusional Optimism with Dr. B Lindsey Marks: IG: @lindseyfaithdm Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast Lee Fields: Web: enneagrammatic.com IG: @enneagrammatic Seth Abram: IG: @integratedenneagram Pod: Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast Flemming Christensen: Web: flemmingchristensen.com Trainings: flemmingchristensen.com/training The Enneagram Life Theme: flemmingchristensen.com/enneagram-life-theme.html Book: “The Enneagram and why your blind type matters” IG: @flemmingchristensencom FB: Flemming Christensen LinkedIn: Flemming Christensen Mentioned in this episode: Thanks to Evolving Enneagram for Sponsoring Today's Episode! Learn More About Evolving Enneagram

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