# Why Are We Still Driving?

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Podcast: [Interesting Times with Ross Douthat](https://stenobird.com/podcast/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457)
Published: 2026-04-30T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/30/opinion/why-are-we-still-driving.html
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## Resource

Self-driving cars are here. But what kind of future will they bring: safe roads and extra time or dystopian traffic jams? My guest this week is Andrew Miller, who writes about self-driving cars and transportation policy. I love the open road, so I press him on what’s lost when we give away driving to the robots.

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