# No, Young Men Are Not Returning to Church

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Podcast: [Interesting Times with Ross Douthat](https://stenobird.com/podcast/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457)
Published: 2026-01-22T10:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/22/opinion/interesting-times-ryan-burge.html
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Something surprising is happening to religious belief in America: It’s no longer trending downward. Are Americans becoming more religious? On this episode of “Interesting Times,” Ross sits down with the demographer and former pastor Ryan Burge to discuss the myths and realities of religious revival and debate whether the future belongs to ortho bros or Pagans.

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