# Does the Iran War Put America First?

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Podcast: [Interesting Times with Ross Douthat](https://stenobird.com/podcast/interesting-times-with-ross-douthat-440457)
Published: 2026-03-05T10:00:00+00:00
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I don’t think a war with Iran is what Trump — or his voters — had in mind when he campaigned on “America first.” My guest this week is Curt Mills, the executive director of The American Conservative, a magazine that champions foreign policy restraint. Mills thinks the war with Iran is a major betrayal of the voters who put Trump in the White House and has the potential to shatter Trump’s domestic coalition.

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