# 139: Ryan Hawk — How to Build Life-Changing Confidence

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Podcast: [Intentional Leader with Cal Walters](https://stenobird.com/podcast/intentional-leader-with-cal-walters-248259)
Published: 2026-07-21T10:38:00+00:00
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## Resource

📘Order Ryan's New Book, The Price of Becoming: https://learningleader.com/ ➡️ Get my free weekly newsletter (The Intentional Letter): https://courses.calwalters.me/signup What does it really take to become the person you're capable of becoming? In this conversation, Ryan Hawk shares the lessons he's learned from interviewing more than 700 world-class leaders, the habits that build lasting confidence, and why keeping promises to yourself is the foundation of consistency. We also discuss the surprising letter that changed Ryan's life as a child, his years-long pursuit of Jim Collins, and the leadership lessons he's learned from his wife and family. If you're looking to grow as a leader, spouse, parent, or person, I think you'll find this conversation both challenging and encouraging. 00:00 Introduction 01:10 Why Ryan Hawk Loves Long-Form Conversations 03:04 How Interviewing Became a Core Part of Ryan's Life 06:22 The People Who Shape Who We Become 07:44 The Letter Ryan Received at Eight Years Old 09:54 Prove Your Supporters Right 13:16 The Motivation Behind Ryan's Work 16:56 Responsibility, Service, and Productive Paranoia 19:08 Have a Plan, Work the Plan, Plan for the Unexpected 22:39 The Real Price of Becoming 25:44 How Confidence Is Built Through Consistency 28:05 Are Some People Naturally More Disciplined? 32:16 Be Careful About the Promises You Make 35:36 Ryan's Unfiltered Perspective on Waking Up Early 38:49 When Your Strengths Create Tension at Home 41:49 What Ryan's Wife Said About His Growth 44:14 Why Curiosity Is One of the Greatest Ways to Show Love 47:52 Modeling Love, Marriage, and Leadership at Home 50:37 Ryan's Years-Long Pursuit of Jim Collins 54:34 How Ryan Finally Got Jim Collins on the Podcast 56:29 Meeting One of His Heroes 58:23 The Price of Becoming…

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