# The Fourth Intelligence Revolution: AI, National Security, and the Future of Intelligence Work with Anthony Vinci Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/intel-at-the-edge-7481844/the-fourth-intelligence-revolution-ai-national-security-and-the-future-of-intelligence-work-with-anthony-vinci Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/intel-at-the-edge-7481844/the-fourth-intelligence-revolution-ai-national-security-and-the-future-of-intelligence-work-with-anthony-vinci.md Podcast: [Intel at the Edge](https://stenobird.com/podcast/intel-at-the-edge-7481844) Published: 2025-09-24T12:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://intel-at-the-edge.simplecast.com/episodes/the-fourth-intelligence-revolution-ai-national-security-and-the-future-of-intelligence-work-with-anthony-vinci-qc5H26n_ Audio file: https://cdn.simplecast.com/audio/242bbc53-8af3-45c7-af38-a42fa1a9a935/episodes/8eed743d-8469-4ecb-8c66-e12e44365795/audio/93262254-8710-451d-92ba-9a46b120475f/default_tc.mp3?aid=rss_feed&feed=JAAB9RKb Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/intel-at-the-edge-7481844/episodes/the-fourth-intelligence-revolution-ai-national-security-and-the-future-of-intelligence-work-with-anthony-vinci Duration seconds: 2319 ## Resource In this episode of Intel at the Edge, Chip is joined by Anthony Vinci, Adjunct Senior Fellow at the Center for a New American Security (CNAS). Anthony is a former Chief Technology Officer and Associate Director for Capabilities at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency (NGA) and author of the upcoming book “The Fourth Intelligence Revolution: The Future of Espionage and the Battle to Save America”. Anthony and Chip talk about how AI, autonomous systems, and other technologies are driving change in the business of intelligence and what the future of intelligence might look like. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/intel-at-the-edge-7481844/episodes/the-fourth-intelligence-revolution-ai-national-security-and-the-future-of-intelligence-work-with-anthony-vinci/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/intel-at-the-edge-7481844/the-fourth-intelligence-revolution-ai-national-security-and-the-future-of-intelligence-work-with-anthony-vinci.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.