# Episode 385: Private Credit Beyond the Headlines: What Insurance Investors Need to Know

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Published: 2026-09-11T10:47:43+00:00
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## Resource

In this episode, Tim Warrick, CFA, Managing Director and Head of Alternative Credit at Principal Asset Management, discusses what insurance investors should know about private credit beyond the headlines. He shares Principal Asset Management’s perspective on the differences across lower, core, and upper middle market direct lending, including how leverage, covenants, liquidity, and borrower characteristics can shape risk and return. The conversation also explores why portfolio construction begins before a loan is originated, how active monitoring and downside testing can support capital preservation, and where Tim sees persistent value across private credit. He also discusses diversification, the role of the illiquidity or “inefficiency” premium, and how the market may continue to evolve as more investors enter the asset class.

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