# Episode 349: Real Estate Secondaries: Opportunities for Insurers in Evolving Markets

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Podcast: [InsuranceAUM.com](https://stenobird.com/podcast/insuranceaum-com-113748)
Published: 2026-01-12T06:51:00+00:00
Episode link: https://insuranceaumjournal.podbean.com/e/real-estate-secondaries-opportunities-for-insurers-in-evolving-markets/
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## Resource

Michelle Creed, Partner and Co-Head of Real Estate Secondaries, and Min Zhou, Managing Director in the Ares Secondaries Group, join host Stewart Foley, CFA, on the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast for an in-depth discussion on real estate secondaries and how the market has evolved. The conversation explores the growth of GP-led transactions and continuation vehicles, the impact of valuation resets and liquidity dynamics, and how real estate secondaries can be used as a portfolio management tool. Michelle and Min also address common misconceptions around discounts, asset quality, and the motivations behind secondary transactions. The episode concludes with insights into portfolio construction considerations, diversification, and capital efficiency, particularly as institutional investors navigate shifting real estate and private market environments.

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