# Chet Scott: Live Hard, Love Harder

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Podcast: [Innerspace: Deep, Meaningful Conversations with Brett Kaufman](https://stenobird.com/podcast/innerspace-deep-meaningful-conversations-with-brett-kaufman-185648)
Published: 2026-06-01T08:00:39+00:00
Episode link: https://joininnerspace.com/
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Duration seconds: 4816

## Resource

Chet Scott is the founder of Built to Lead, a coaching practice he started in 2002 to help high performers discover who they are at their core. A former tech executive, Chet's path changed in 1993 after a leadership course forced him to confront how he was actually perceived, and he has spent the years since studying human nature and high performance with business teams and sports teams alike. His work has grown to include a book, an app, and a team of coaches he calls builders. In this conversation, Chet shares his philosophy of "oneness within, then oneness with others," and why most people stay stuck blaming external circumstances instead of doing the harder inner work. He and Brett get into his mantra "live hard, love harder," why the work is "for the few," what happens when clients plateau and stop growing, and why learning to run toward hard conversations instead of away from them is what separates chronic pain from acute healing. Chet also talks about the power of curiosity, the seven good minutes exercise that has transformed relationships, and why the people you invest in most are sometimes "built to leave."

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