# Inside the Code War: Defending Against Nation-State Cyber Threats Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/infosecurity-magazine-podcast-1181101/inside-the-code-war-defending-against-nation-state-cyber-threats Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/infosecurity-magazine-podcast-1181101/inside-the-code-war-defending-against-nation-state-cyber-threats.md Podcast: [Infosecurity Magazine Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/infosecurity-magazine-podcast-1181101) Published: 2026-04-20T13:37:18+00:00 Episode link: https://soundcloud.com/user-460162468/infosecurity-mag-podcast-april-2026 Audio file: https://feeds.soundcloud.com/stream/2305751864-user-460162468-infosecurity-mag-podcast-april-2026.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/infosecurity-magazine-podcast-1181101/episodes/inside-the-code-war-defending-against-nation-state-cyber-threats Duration seconds: 2264 ## Resource In this episode of the Infosecurity Magazine Podcast, we speak with Allie Mellen, author of Code War: How Nations Hack, Spy, and Shape the Digital Battlefield, about the rising threat of nation-state cyber operations. Mellen breaks down how the US, Russia and China use cyber capabilities as core elements of military strategy, exploring the evolution of their cyber doctrines and how they differ in goals, escalation and integration with conventional warfare. From Russia’s hybrid warfare tactics to China’s long-term espionage campaigns, she explains why defenders must think strategically, not just technically. For CISOs and security leaders, this episode offers a vital briefing on the geopolitical realities of cyber threats, the rise of cyber mercenaries, supply chain weaponization and why all organizations must prepare for persistent cyber espionage. Code War: How Nations Hack, Spy, and Shape the Digital Battlefield is available now. ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/infosecurity-magazine-podcast-1181101/episodes/inside-the-code-war-defending-against-nation-state-cyber-threats/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/infosecurity-magazine-podcast-1181101/inside-the-code-war-defending-against-nation-state-cyber-threats.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.