# Gretchen Rubin - How Curiosity Becomes a Calling (Ep. 320)

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Podcast: [Infinite Loops](https://stenobird.com/podcast/infinite-loops-259760)
Published: 2026-06-25T09:10:00+00:00
Episode link: https://infiniteloopspodcast.com/320
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## Resource

Gretchen Rubin joins guest host and Infinite Books CEO Jimmy Soni to discuss her journey from Supreme Court clerk to bestselling author, the creative obsessions that shaped her career, and the daily habits that fuel her work. They cover her transition from law to writing Power Money Fame Sex , why she often ends up writing the book before the proposal, the art of editing until the final hour (even during pass pages), her 5:30 AM writing routine, and why "know thyself" remains the foundation of all her books - from 40 Ways to Look at Winston Churchill to Life in Five Senses . Important Links: Learn more about Gretchen: https://gretchenrubin.com/ Read more of Gretchen's work: https://gretchenrubin.com/books Listen to Gretchen's podcast: https://gretchenrubin.com/happier/

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