# Ep. 154: AI Threats: Real vs. Phony, with Perry Metzger

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Podcast: [InFi: the Future of Finance](https://stenobird.com/podcast/infi-the-future-of-finance-6015611)
Published: 2026-09-18T19:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Perry Metzger returns to the podcast, this time to bring a dose of cynicism to the recent warnings coming from Anthropic employees, including CEO Dario Amodei. Metzger agrees that evil humans can use new technology in nefarious ways, but argues that the good guys likewise need to develop AI tools for defensive purposes. Watch the video version of this episode here: https://youtu.be/i4BGahWluWE Subscribe to our YouTube channel: https://bit.ly/3XXfmGS Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/infineogroup Follow us on Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/infineogroup Learn more about Infineo at: https://www.infineo.io Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com

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