# 'Industry' Creators Mickey Down and Konrad Kay

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Podcast: [IndieWire's Filmmaker Toolkit](https://stenobird.com/podcast/indiewire-s-filmmaker-toolkit-454929)
Published: 2026-03-02T16:03:00+00:00
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## Resource

The hit HBO drama "Industry" just dropped its season 4 finale last night, and we have creators Mickey Down and Konrad Kay on the Filmmaker's Toolkit to break it all down. They discuss turning the series into a conspiracy thriller this season, incredible moments like Erics walk off and Yasmin's punishing arc, as well as the meaning of the final shot and mysterious flash frame. Can't get enough "Industry?" Revisit our season 3 interview with Mickey and Konrad - https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/industry-creators-konrad-kay-and-mickey-down/id1142632832?i=1000671314786 Subscribe to Top Of The Line - IndieWire's new newsletter about the craft of film and TV - https://cloud.email.indiewire.com/signup/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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