# Henry Rollins. On Trump, Iran, America 250, The Cramps. 13 Dead For What?

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Podcast: [Independent Americans with Paul Rieckhoff](https://stenobird.com/podcast/independent-americans-with-paul-rieckhoff-981737)
Published: 2026-06-22T22:07:51+00:00
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Henry Rollins doesn't do small talk. The punk icon, author, USO road dog, and longtime friend of the show returns from Nashville to deliver one of the most blistering hours we've recorded this year. He keeps dragging the conversation back to the number no cable network wants to sit with: 13 dead American service members, and countless wounded, from a war in Iran the president picked and can't justify. Rollins walks through what a USO trip actually sounds like — young troops telling him the mission is simply "get to D-FAC" — and asks the only question that matters from the resolute desk: how do I get every one of them home?

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