# Building Digital Gravity: How Startups Create Mass and Momentum

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Podcast: [In the Pit with Cody Schneider | Marketing | Growth | Startups](https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-the-pit-with-cody-schneider-marketing-growth-startups-6006110)
Published: 2025-06-20T17:41:19+00:00
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https://www.graphed.com/ - AI data analyst to build dashboard and get insights In this episode, we’re joined by Jordan Mix, partner at Late Checkout, for an in-depth discussion on how startups can build a million-dollar brand in today’s hyper-competitive landscape. Jordan introduces the concept of digital gravity —a framework for creating “mass” on the internet that draws customers into your brand’s orbit. The conversation explores how companies can move beyond linear funnels and embrace orbit-based growth, where repeated brand interactions across multiple channels drive purchasing decisions. Together, we break down actionable strategies for generating traction, including the smart use of AI agents, automation, and vibe marketing. Jordan shares insights on balancing transactional marketing (like paid ads and cold outreach) with long-term brand-building investments, while emphasizing the role of creators, content flywheels, and the importance of being discoverable in AI-driven search results. Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction: Building a million-dollar brand in 2025 00:27 - Meet Jordan Mix and overview of Late Checkout 01:10 - The idea of digital gravity and mass in the AI era 03:00 - Funnels vs. orbits: How people really buy 06:15 - Automation, AI agents, and vibe marketing explained 10:45 - AI SEO, branded search, and surviving the law of shitty click-throughs 15:20 - Building discovery flywheels and creator-driven growth 20:30 - Strategies for leveraging YouTube, Reels, and creators at scale 25:00 - Managing creator risk and internal content strategies 28:00 - How to start creating digital gravity without overwhelm Key Points: • Digital Gravity Framework — Customers enter your orbit through repeated brand interactions, not linear funnels. The goal is to create mass (c…

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