# Redesigning Democracy for All

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Podcast: [In the Making](https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-the-making-7863865)
Published: 2026-05-14T12:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/OOOKK7940740262.mp3
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Duration seconds: 1832

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Amid political chaos, low trust in institutions and government, and the grief of this moment, host Baratunde Thurston, CEO Michael McAfee and President Ashleigh Gardere discuss why this moment calls for redesigning this nation—and how it's always been the people excluded from democracy who have brought it closer to its promise.

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