# When evidence meets Washington politics | Dean Karlan

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Podcast: [In Pursuit of Development](https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-pursuit-of-development-375149)
Published: 2025-11-26T06:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Dan Banik speaks with Dean Karlan about his efforts to strengthen evidence use and cost-effectiveness inside USAID during a period of dramatic institutional change. Together, they explore what the agency’s recent dismantling means for global development, U.S. soft power, and the future of aid in an increasingly uncertain world.

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