# How to build a company you’ll run forever | Zack Kanter (Founder and CEO of Stedi) Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-depth-1318680/how-to-build-a-company-you-ll-run-forever-zack-kanter-founder-and-ceo-of-stedi Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-depth-1318680/how-to-build-a-company-you-ll-run-forever-zack-kanter-founder-and-ceo-of-stedi.md Podcast: [In Depth](https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-depth-1318680) Published: 2025-11-06T12:00:00+00:00 Episode link: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/FRCH1542789833.mp3 Audio file: https://traffic.megaphone.fm/FRCH1542789833.mp3 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/in-depth-1318680/episodes/how-to-build-a-company-you-ll-run-forever-zack-kanter-founder-and-ceo-of-stedi Duration seconds: 5049 ## Resource Zack Kanter is the founder and CEO of Stedi, an API-first healthcare clearinghouse. After bootstrapping a wildly profitable auto-parts business, he sold it to tackle "the most complicated problem" he'd ever encountered: business-to-business transaction exchange. He spent years building EDI infrastructure, threw away the entire codebase eight times, and found extraordinary traction in healthcare. Stedi recently raised a $70M Series B co-led by Stripe and Addition. In this conversation, Brett and Zack discuss why venture capital means "going pro," why execution is never actually a moat, and how "eating glass" became Stedi's competitive advantage. In today’s episode, we discuss: How 16-year-old Zack turned $2,500 into a wholesale empire Why bootstrapping means being "constrained by capital" and how VC removes that ceiling Why Zack rebuilt their EDI product eight times before launch The snake swallowing a deer: what extreme product-market fit really looks like What software companies can learn from discount retail and Toyota Why Stedi’s new hires are told "everything’s your fault now" And much more Where to find Zack: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zkanter Twitter/X: https://x.com/zackkanter Where to find Brett: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-berson-9986094/ Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/brettberson Where to find First Round Capital: Website: https://firstround.com/ First Round Review: https://review.firstround.com/ Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/firstround YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FirstRoundCapital This podcast on all platforms: https://review.firstround.com/podcast References: Aetna: https://www.aetna.com/ Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/ AWS: https://aws.amazon.com/ Blue Cross Blue Shield: https://www.bcbs.com/ Change Healthcare: https://www… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/in-depth-1318680/episodes/how-to-build-a-company-you-ll-run-forever-zack-kanter-founder-and-ceo-of-stedi/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/in-depth-1318680/how-to-build-a-company-you-ll-run-forever-zack-kanter-founder-and-ceo-of-stedi.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.