# Bill Kristol: No Nukes, No Joy, No Easy Way Out in Iran

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Podcast: [Impolitic with John Heilemann](https://stenobird.com/podcast/impolitic-with-john-heilemann-1329107)
Published: 2026-03-20T14:25:00+00:00
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## Resource

John welcomes erstwhile neocon stalwart and current Bulwark seditor-at-large Bill Kristol to discuss the war in Iran, amid mounting signs that it is spiraling out of control. Kristol weighs in on the economic and military dynamics propelling the conflict; whether the U.S. is in danger of being ensnared in an escalation trap; the resignation of Trump’s top counterterrorism adviser, Joe Kent; Israel’s role in the war’s inception; and the rapid unraveling of Donald Trump’s rationales for why he started it in the first place. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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