# Immune Booster 19: Virus-immune Tug-of-war with Kristian Andersen

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Published: 2025-11-11T05:00:00+00:00
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Kristian Andersen from Scripps Research Institute joins Cindy to talk about how he got interested in virus evolution, how the immune system drives viral adaptation, and what we can learn from this research to better prepare us for the next pandemic. Host: Cindy Leifer Guest: Kristian Andersen Subscribe (free): Apple Podcasts , RSS , email Become a patron of Immune! Links for this episode MicrobeTV Discord Server Andersen Lab website Perspective on Immunological drivers of virus emergence Kristian's appearance on TWiV 774 Time stamps by Jolene Ramsey . Thanks! Music by Tatami . Logo image by Blausen Medical Send your immunology questions and comments to immune@microbe.tv Information on this podcast should not be construed as medical advice.

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