# Borderly Reflections: About the Line

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Podcast: [Immigrantly](https://stenobird.com/podcast/immigrantly-405230)
Published: 2026-02-03T10:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

This coverage was made possible by a grant from URL Collective, a non-profit supporting local diverse media In this reflection episode of Borderly, host and journalist Mario Carrillo returns to the U.S.–Mexico border that shaped his life to ask what the border really is and what it has asked of those who live with it. Through deeply personal stories, Mario reflects on proposing to his wife while overlooking Ciudad Juárez, navigating a nearly seven-year immigration process, and crossing the border together for her final visa interview after decades of separation from her country of birth. He recounts the fear, uncertainty, and cruelty of the immigration system, alongside the hope and belonging that continue to exist at the border every day. This episode is an invitation to slow down, resist flattening the border into myth or argument, and listen more carefully to the people and places we think we already understand. Borderly is a project of Immigrantly. New episodes follow weekly in January. Join us in creating new intellectual engagement for our audience. You can find more information at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠http://immigrantlypod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Please share the love and leave us a review on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ & ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠to help more people find us! You can connect with Saadia on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠IG ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@itssaadiak⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email:saadia@immigrantlypod.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Host: Mario Carrillo I Producer: Saadia Khan I Editorial review: Shei Yu I Sound Designer & Editor and Borderly Theme Music: Lou Raskin I Other Music: Epidemic Sound Immigrantly Podcast is an Immigrantly Media Production. For advertising inquiries, contact us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠…

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