# #437 - Identiverse 2026 - Pam Dingle

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Podcast: [Identity at the Center](https://stenobird.com/podcast/identity-at-the-center-344918)
Published: 2026-07-27T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/identity-at-the-center/episodes/437---Identiverse-2026---Pam-Dingle-e3lv3im
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## Resource

Live from the IDAC booth at Identiverse 2026, Jeff and Jim sit down with Pam Dingle, Director of Identity Standards at Microsoft, to unpack agentic identity. Pam breaks down assistive versus autonomous agents, walks through where standards like SPIFFE and OAuth hold up, and explains the difference between delegation, impersonation, and partition. The conversation also covers credential discovery risk, shared signals and revocation, what enterprises should prioritize now, and the value of hallway conversations at Identiverse. Connect with Pam: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pameladingle/ OAuth Actor Profile for Delegation: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-mcguinness-oauth-actor-profile-00.html Connect with us on LinkedIn: Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/ Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/ Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com Timestamps: 00:00 Intro and Identiverse 2026 vibes 04:01 Defining agentic identity 07:06 Has the earth really shifted 11:38 An old problem thats been bejeweled 15:13 From Nulli Secundus to Microsoft 16:00 How standards are holding up 19:27 Client ID metadata and just in time trust 21:41 Shared signals and the revocation problem 24:43 Deploying agentic identity at scale 28:11 Registries at scale 29:04 Delegation authorization and attenuation 32:33 Delegation vs impersonation vs partition 36:03 The one thing you can fix right now 37:56 Favorite hallway conversation 42:29 The solar system of hallway conversations 45:51 Remembering Kim Cameron 48:00 New voices to watch 52:08 Wrap up and thank you Keywords: IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Pam Dingle, Pamela Dingle, Microsoft, Identiverse 2026, agentic identity, agentic AI, non-human identity, delegation, impersonat…

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