# #418 - Ethical IAM with Elizabeth Garber

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Podcast: [Identity at the Center](https://stenobird.com/podcast/identity-at-the-center-344918)
Published: 2026-04-27T09:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/identity-at-the-center/episodes/418---Ethical-IAM-with-Elizabeth-Garber-e3i673t
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## Resource

What does it mean to build an identity system that is ethical? Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman are joined by Elizabeth Garber, Executive Director of IDPro and marketing lead for the OpenID Foundation, for a conversation spanning ethics in digital identity, the tension between privacy and safety, biometric exclusion risks, and how practitioners can use structured frameworks to navigate these discussions productively. Elizabeth shares her three-part career journey, the latest from the IDPro community, and previews her upcoming keynotes at EIC Berlin and Identiverse Las Vegas. Connect with Elizabeth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabethgarber IDPro Discount - New members get $25 off their first year of membership: https://idpro.org/idac/ Ethics and Digital Identity by Henk Marsman: https://bok.idpro.org/article/id/104/ Ethics for Digital Identity and Identity-Driven Algorithms by Mike Kiser: https://bok.idpro.org/article/id/105/ Human Centric Digital Identity white paper: https://openid.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Human-Centric_Digital_Identity_Final-v1.1.pdf Connect with us on LinkedIn: Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/ Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/ Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com Timestamps: 00:00 Intro and Jim's allergy research 03:42 Conference announcements: EIC and Identiverse 06:00 Welcome Elizabeth Garber 07:04 Elizabeth's three-part origin story 11:55 IDPro mission and the identity community 18:13 Membership, CIDPRO certification, and the Body of Knowledge 21:17 IDPro Slack community 23:40 IdentiBeer and local meetups 26:26 IDPro listener discount at idpro.org/idac 29:00 Operationalizing ideas in IAM 32:19 Ethics in the IDPro Body of Knowledge 33:30 Defining ethics in technology 34:19 The t…

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