# Everything Is Phone

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Podcast: [ICYMI](https://stenobird.com/podcast/icymi-1580479)
Published: 2026-06-17T07:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/icymi/episodes/6a31989ec26a46aaa5778739
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## Resource

On today’s episode, host Kate Lindsay is joined by Slate staff writer Nitish Pawha to discuss his piece “ Your TV Is Not Safe .” Apps like Instagram, Substack, and Spotify are making the leap from smart phones to smart TVs , as TVs attempt to compete against scrolling, and the nature of entertainment is changing. But giving over our TVs to these companies even further changes our relationships with technology, and even more, how we spend time with each other.  This podcast is produced by Vic Whitley-Berry, Daisy Rosario, and Kate Lindsay, with help from A.C. Valdez. Need to set up your Slate Plus feed? If you subscribed through Slate.com, check out our FAQ at slate.com/podcastfaqs for easy instructions. Members subscribed via Apple Podcasts get automatic access—no setup required. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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