# 185. Preparing for the “Empty Nest”

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Podcast: [ICONic Talk](https://stenobird.com/podcast/iconic-talk-4062160)
Published: 2026-07-30T10:00:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 1871

## Resource

Mark and Rachel swap stories, surprises, and a few hard-earned lessons when preparing for kids to leave the “nest” - parents prepare for their new “normal” and everyone figures out what “independence” really means! Additional podcast on data centers to enhance last episode’s conversation: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/freakonomics-radio/id354668519?i=1000778112770 Upcoming Local Events… - Frederick County Fair, July 27-August 1 https://www.frederickcountyfair.com/ - West Oaks “Peaches and Beaches, Saturday, August 1, 11am-5pm https://www.westoaksfarm-market.com/events/peaches-and-beaches-festival - Route 11 “Yard Crawl”, Saturday, August 8 https://www.shenandoahcountychamber.com/Rt-11-Yard-Crawl

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