# Inside RAMP: Teamwork in Action: How Large Counseling Teams Achieve RAMP

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Podcast: [I Hear You Say](https://stenobird.com/podcast/i-hear-you-say-233128)
Published: 2025-06-24T11:58:49+00:00
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<img class="wp-image-4163 aligncenter" src="https://videos.schoolcounselor.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/ramp_ep4.jpg" alt="" width="376" height="376" /> In this episode of ASCA’s special mini-series, Deirdra Williams, ASCA's Director of Programs and Advocacy, explores the impact and evolution of the Recognized ASCA Model Program (RAMP), which celebrates its 21st year of honoring schools with exemplary, data-informed counseling programs. She’s joined by two RAMP recipients—Jeff Hargis from Legacy High School (Legacy High School, Broomfield, CO) and Jeff Pastiak (Oak Lawn Community High School, Oaklawn, IL)—who share what it’s like to pursue RAMP as part of a large counseling team. They discuss how collaboration, strategic task-sharing, and adaptability drive their success, offering practical insights for other teams looking to strengthen their programs and achieve RAMP recognition.

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