# Inside RAMP: Data, Dedication, and Discovery: What It Takes to Earn RAMP

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Podcast: [I Hear You Say](https://stenobird.com/podcast/i-hear-you-say-233128)
Published: 2025-06-12T17:28:48+00:00
Episode link: https://videos.schoolcounselor.org/inside-ramp-episode-2/
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<img class="wp-image-4144 aligncenter" src="https://videos.schoolcounselor.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/06/ramp_ep2.jpg" alt="" width="304" height="304" /> In this episode of ASCA’s special podcast mini-series, Deirdra Williams, ASCA's Director of Programs and Advocacy discusses the Recognized ASCA Model Program (RAMP), an initiative by the American School Counselor Association, now in its 21st year. RAMP honors schools that deliver comprehensive, data-driven school counseling programs aligned with the ASCA National Model. Joining the conversation are RAMP recipients Jennifer Alberth (Stone Hill Middle School, Ashburn, VA), Katie Doss (Vista Grande Elementary, Rio Rancho, NM), Rachel Hagelin (Belton High School, Belton, Missouri), and Mirna DeLeon (Upland Unified School District, CA). They share candid reflections on their RAMP journeys—highlighting the challenges, emotional breakthroughs, and lasting impact on their schools and students. From leveraging data to building strong teams, each story underscores the transformative power of intentional school counseling. Whether you're considering the RAMP process or simply want to hear inspiring voices from the field, this episode offers encouragement, insight, and practical advice.

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