# Grant Lawrence on 28 years inside the CBC, why 54-40 get snubbed by the Junos and more

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Podcast: [I Hate Simkin](https://stenobird.com/podcast/i-hate-simkin-7337655)
Published: 2025-12-03T12:00:00+00:00
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## Resource

Grant Lawrence joins Jonathan for one of the most revealing, funny, and brutally honest conversations about the Canadian music industry you'll hear. Grant is a longtime CBC host, author, musician, and one of the most recognizable voices in Canadian music culture. He and Jonathan go deep into: CBC's Top 20 and how radio formats keep mutating 28 years inside the CBC and surviving the chaos of the music industry Mint Records stories from the Dominion Building days The ugliest parts of award-show politics The truth about diversity optics at award shows Why 54-40 has zero Junos Why Jonathan will never win the Walt Grealis Award How reputation, longevity, and grudges shape the Canadian music industry Stories involving Sarah McLachlan's early records, Skinny Puppy, Gob, and more The legendary "hirsute" moment with Jonathan's wife And how an immigration lawyer accidentally became a major entertainment lawyer This episode is full of Canadian music history, unbelievable industry stories, and the kind of behind-the-scenes honesty that makes I Hate Simkin what it is.

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