# Is “ring of fire” ADHD real?

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Podcast: [Hyperfocus with Rae Jacobson](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hyperfocus-with-rae-jacobson-7037869)
Published: 2026-03-26T04:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.understood.org/en/podcasts/hyperfocus/ring-of-fire-adhd
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## Resource

Our team has been seeing something called “ring of fire” ADHD spreading across the internet. It’s a supposed subtype of ADHD promoted by Daniel Amen, a celebrity psychiatrist with clinics in multiple states and a huge online following. But in reporting this episode, we found that “ring of fire” ADHD isn’t recognized by mainstream science. Nor are brain scans approved by the FDA as a diagnostic tool for ADHD. Our guest today, clinical psychologist Roberto Olivardia, PhD, explains why he believes Dr. Amen’s approach is unethical — and how it may lead to real harm for patients seeking answers.

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