# Sabrina Ellis | CPO & Career Breaks

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Podcast: [HumanizeHer with Erica Lockheimer](https://stenobird.com/podcast/humanizeher-with-erica-lockheimer-7021072)
Published: 2025-07-22T23:45:00+00:00
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Duration seconds: 3067

## Resource

Join us on The HumanizeHer Podcast for an incredibly candid conversation with Sabrina Ellis , a powerhouse product leader as VP at companies like Google and Yahoo , and former Chief Product Officer at Pinterest ! Sabrina shares her remarkable career journey, revealing the highs and lows of navigating top executive roles in the tech industry. From the early days of the dot-com boom and making Yahoo Mail #1 globally, to steering product at Google and Pinterest, she offers an unfiltered look at what it takes to innovate and lead. This episode is packed with invaluable insights, including: 💡 The power of career breaks: Sabrina openly discusses her intentional "off-ramps" and the confidence (and spousal support!) it took to step away, emphasizing how these breaks fueled her growth. 💡 Defining the Chief Product Officer role: What it means to "herd genius, feral cats" and empower diverse teams to build impactful products. 💡 Navigating adversity in the C-suite: Sabrina shares deeply personal experiences, from a toxic "Coliseum" culture to facing assumptions as an Asian female executive. 💡 "Sabrina's Rule of Three": Her fascinating observation on how minorities are perceived in professional settings and the importance of critical mass for true individuality. 💡 The future of work: A thought-provoking discussion on challenging capitalism's limits and envisioning tech companies that prioritize employees over profit maximization. Sabrina's transparency about self-doubt, identity crises after leaving big brands, and the ongoing journey of self-discovery offers a refreshing perspective. Get ready to be inspired to embrace your own path, challenges and all! Join the conversation with host, Erica Lockheimer and co-host, Elizabeth Wendorf-Bloesser .

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