# As AI gets smarter, what makes humans more valuable?

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Podcast: [Hub & Spoken: Data | Analytics | Chief Data Officer | CDO | Data Strategy](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hub-spoken-data-analytics-chief-data-officer-cdo-data-strategy-562230)
Published: 2026-07-23T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://cynozure.libsyn.com/as-ai-gets-smarter-what-makes-humans-more-valuable
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As AI becomes more capable, the question for leaders is no longer what technology can do, but what people should do. In this episode of Hub & Spoken, Jason Foster, CEO & Founder of Cynozure, is joined by Ollie Pickup, Human Work Evolution Storyteller, to explore how organisations can embrace AI without losing the qualities that make people indispensable. Together, they discuss why removing every ounce of friction from work may come at a cost, whether businesses are unintentionally cutting off the next generation of talent, and why trust, judgement and human connection will become increasingly valuable in an AI-driven world. The conversation explores the changing role of education, the impact of AI on graduate opportunities, and the responsibility organisations have to develop future leaders rather than simply automate entry-level work. Ollie also shares his framework of the "Seven Cs" - the human capabilities he believes will matter most as machines become more intelligent - from curiosity and creativity to communication, compassion and critical thinking. This is a thoughtful discussion about balancing technological progress with human potential, and how leaders can ensure AI strengthens organisations without diminishing the people who power them.

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