# Trump says U.S. doesn't need Canada. What happens to CUSMA now?

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Published: 2026-06-12T18:48:30+00:00
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Rudyard Griffiths and Sean Speer examine the turbulent state of Canada-U.S. trade relations following President Trump's assertion that the United States does not need Canada or a renewed CUSMA. They also analyze the shift from Prime Minister Carney's "sovereignty economics" toward a "Fortress North America" approach, exploring whether it signals a recognition of Canada's limited options. In the second half, they critique the Carney government's embrace of state-directed capitalism, questioning whether state-led industrial policy can deliver economic growth or if market-based solutions remain superior despite global trends toward greater government intervention. If you are enjoying the free version of the Hub Roundtable, subscribe to become a Hub Hero or Fellow to access the full version every week: https://thehub.ca/join/ The Hub is Canada’s fastest growing independent digital news outlet. Subscribe to The Hub's podcast feed to get our best content when you are on the go: https://tinyurl.com/3a7zpd7e (Apple) https://tinyurl.com/y8akmfn7 (Spotify) Follow The Hub on X: https://x.com/thehubcanada?lang=en CREDITS: Amal Attar-Guzman - Producer Elia Gross - Editor Rudyard Griffiths and Sean Speer - Hosts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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