# The Palestinian activist who hates Hamas

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Published: 2026-09-15T14:45:00+00:00
Episode link: https://shows.acast.com/hub-podcasts/episodes/why-hamas-has-been-a-disaster-for-palestinians
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## Resource

Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, a Palestinian American and senior fellow at the Atlantic Council, discusses his childhood in Gaza, surviving an Israeli airstrike at age 11, and losing 31 family members since the conflict unleashed after October 7th. He argues that Hamas has devastated Palestinian prospects using armed resistance. He advocates instead for "radical pragmatism"—accepting Israel is here to stay, abandoning right of return, and pursuing nation-building over violence. Alkhatib also calls out Israeli policies and Netanyahu’s leadership, describing their major missteps during the war, that has come at the cost of thousands of civilians. This episode is a part of The Hub's new Fault Lines initiative, which examines the pressures pulling Canadian society apart and the principles that can hold it together. Click here to learn more: https://thehub.ca/fault-lines/ The Hub is Canada’s fastest growing independent digital news outlet. Subscribe to The Hub’s podcast feed to get all our best content: https://tinyurl.com/3a7zpd7e (Apple) https://tinyurl.com/y8akmfn7 (Spotify) Watch a video version on YouTube: / @thehubcanada Follow The Hub on X: https://x.com/thehubcanada?lang=en CREDITS: Pouya Daneshpajooh - Producer and Editor Harrison Lowman - Host Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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