# 'HR cannot own culture alone'

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Podcast: [HR Leader Podcast Network](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hr-leader-podcast-network-5582686)
Published: 2026-07-20T04:17:25+00:00
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## Resource

In the post-pandemic workplace, when leaders appear more reactive and less inclined to challenge toxic employees, the costs to the business can be significant. To this end, culture must be a shared leadership responsibility. In this episode of The HR Leader Podcast, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with Rise and Thrive Global founder Dr Catherine Plano about lessons from listening circles, key takeaways from recent research she's conducted, the dangers of being fearful of losing certain employees, the cost of toxic employees, broader workforce challenges post-pandemic, how HR can get leadership to better own culture questions, and the role of HR moving forward.

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