# How the HR and change management functions can work together better

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Published: 2026-04-29T04:45:05+00:00
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## Resource

Oftentimes, HR doesn't understand what the change management function does. Better appreciating its purpose and working more collaboratively with that function will ultimately benefit the entire workplace. In this week's episode of The HR Leader Podcast, host Jerome Doraisamy speaks with 437 Consulting director and founder Sudesh Dahiya about her background as a programmer and what it taught her about empathy in the workplace, the differences between the HR and change management functions and why they're separate, the challenges that exist in the relationship between HR and change, and how pressing such differences are for HR to help address. Dahiya also delves into how HR and change are approaching transformation differently, the consequences of HR and change not working in sync, the questions HR needs to ask itself in order to bridge the divide and practical steps to implement, overcoming inherent challenges, and why such an improvement in the relationship will benefit all.

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