# 153 | Inside the Fractional CPO/CHRO Role – What It Involves & How to Succeed (With Lorna Bains)

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Podcast: [HR Coffee Time](https://stenobird.com/podcast/hr-coffee-time-4106816)
Published: 2025-09-12T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://www.brightskycareercoaching.co.uk/hr-coffee-time-podcast/153
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What does it really mean to be a fractional Chief People Officer (CPO) or Chief Human Resources Officer (CHRO) – and could it be the right next step in your career? In this episode of HR Coffee Time, host Fay Wallis is joined by Lorna Bains, a hugely experienced HR and business transformation leader who has thrived as a fractional CPO for the past seven years. Lorna lifts the lid on what the role involves, why more organisations are choosing fractional HR leadership, and the habits and practices that help her succeed. As part of the special CPO/CHRO series – where each guest answers the same nine listener-chosen questions – Lorna becomes the 8th CPO to share her story. She also offers down-to-earth advice on handling imposter feelings, building your network, and remembering that you don’t need all the answers to succeed. You’ll hear Lorna’s thoughts on: What makes the fractional CPO role different The team structures and “scaffolding” that allow fractional leadership to work Why building strong networks and communities is crucial The skills, habits, and practices that have most helped her succeed How to stay future-focused and “look around the corner” as a strategic HR leader Handling the biggest challenges of the role Whether you’re curious about the growing trend of fractional HR leadership, considering the CPO/CHRO path, or simply looking to strengthen your own impact as an HR professional, you’ll find plenty of insights and encouragement in this conversation. Useful Links Connect with Fay Wallis on LinkedIn Visit Fay’s website Learn about Fay’s Inspiring HR leadership development programme Lorna’s website: Vilo Consulting The Personal Boardroom framework (by Zella King) Other Relevant HR Coffee Time Episodes Networking: Episode 11: Networking – The Three Most Impor…

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