# 2nd Year - 221: Becoming a Great Conversationalist with Celeste Headlee Page: https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-to-be-awesome-at-your-job-956232/2nd-year-221-becoming-a-great-conversationalist-with-celeste-headlee Text version: https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-to-be-awesome-at-your-job-956232/2nd-year-221-becoming-a-great-conversationalist-with-celeste-headlee.md Podcast: [How to Be Awesome at Your Job](https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-to-be-awesome-at-your-job-956232) Published: 2026-05-04T06:30:00+00:00 Episode link: https://pdst.fm/e/prefix.up.audio/s/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/211/pscrb.fm/rss/p/rss.art19.com/episodes/4dc1f49b-c4eb-4a52-a3d9-fbef63dd7c01.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0 Audio file: https://pdst.fm/e/prefix.up.audio/s/dts.podtrac.com/redirect.mp3/mgln.ai/e/211/pscrb.fm/rss/p/rss.art19.com/episodes/4dc1f49b-c4eb-4a52-a3d9-fbef63dd7c01.mp3?rss_browser=BAhJIg90cmFuc2NyaWJyBjoGRVQ%3D--952c5701c84ad333c69d5faa668f8177091704f0 Processing state: not_requested JSON: https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/how-to-be-awesome-at-your-job-956232/episodes/2nd-year-221-becoming-a-great-conversationalist-with-celeste-headlee Duration seconds: 2161 ## Resource Journalist Celeste Headlee breaks down the steps towards being a better conversationalist. — YOU’LL LEARN —  1) The top ways to have better conversations 2) The myths you believe about good listening 3) An eye-opening way to find out your bad habits as a conversationalist Subscribe or visit   AwesomeAtYourJob.com/ep221  for clickable versions of the links below.  — ABOUT CELESTE —  Celeste Headlee, Public Broadcast Radio Show Host, and Author of  Heard Mentality  and  We Need To Talk.  Celeste Headlee is the host of “On Second Thought” at Georgia Public Broadcasting in Atlanta and has been a host and correspondent for NPR and PRI since 2006. She has trained many journalists through NPR’s Next Generation program. Headlee also has appeared as a guest on CNN, the BBC, and other international networks, and in 2012, she anchored presidential election coverage for PBS World. • Book: We Need to Talk • Website: CelesteHeadlee.com • TED Talk: "10 Ways to Have a Better Conversation" — RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE SHOW —  • Tool: Fitbit • Tool: S+ ResMed • Book: A Tale of Two Cities  by Charles Dickens • Book: Bleak House   by Charles Dickens • Previous episode:  171: Brevity = Critical with Joe McCormack — THANK YOU SPONSORS! —  •  Keepsake Voices.  Get mom something special and save about $100 with  keepsakevoices.com/pete •  Scribe.  Book a personalized enterprise demo with  scribe.how/awesome •  Narwhal . Treat your home to spotless, fresh floors with  us.narwhal.com/pete . •  Monarch.com .  Get 50% off your first year on with the code  AWESOME . •  Shopify . Sign up for your $1/month trial at  Shopify.com/awesomepod See Privacy Policy at h… ## Actions - request_transcript: `POST https://stenobird.com/v1/public/podcasts/how-to-be-awesome-at-your-job-956232/episodes/2nd-year-221-becoming-a-great-conversationalist-with-celeste-headlee/transcription-requests` — Idempotently request low-priority transcript generation for this episode. - read_markdown: `GET https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-to-be-awesome-at-your-job-956232/2nd-year-221-becoming-a-great-conversationalist-with-celeste-headlee.md` — Read the agent-friendly Markdown representation of this episode resource. A page view does not enqueue transcription. Agents should invoke `request_transcript` explicitly when they need this episode processed. ## Transcript Full transcripts are not published on public pages unless there is a clear rights basis.