# What it means to truly pay attention (w/ Kevin Townley)

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Podcast: [How to Be a Better Human](https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-to-be-a-better-human-1370259)
Published: 2026-01-19T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://audiocollective.ted.com
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## Resource

Kevin Townley is a meditation teacher. But he’s also a comedian who leads museum tours and an actor whose career spans Men in Black 3 and Law & Order. In today’s episode, Kevin talks about how to practice the art of looking and the deep Buddhist wisdom that can be found in every museum. Inspired by his book Look, Look, Look, Look, Look Again: Buddhist Wisdom Reflected in 26 Artists, Kevin shows Chris how letting go of judgment—and engaging Buddhist principles—can change the way we view the world and find belonging. Featured guest Follow Kevin Townley on Instagram and at kevintownley.nyc/home Buy Look, Look, Look, Look, Look Again by Kevin Townley Connect with the team Follow Chris on Instagram and at chrisduffycomedy.com Buy Chris’ book, Humor Me   Watch How to Be a Better Human videos on YouTube at TEDAudioCollective Follow TED on X , Instagram , Facebook , LinkedIn , and TikTok For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/BHTranscripts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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