# How to make social risks pay off (w/ Ben Swire)

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Podcast: [How to Be a Better Human](https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-to-be-a-better-human-1370259)
Published: 2026-01-26T05:00:00+00:00
Episode link: https://audiocollective.ted.com
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Many company cultures can feel stagnant and uninspiring, says designer Ben Swire, whose job is to help people take creative risks. Ben shares why icebreakers, compliments, and competitive bonding games can undermine workplace camaraderie. Later Ben shares how he finds success leaning into creativity and provides five activities for more meaningful connections. Featured guest Follow Ben Swire on Instagram , LinkedIn , and at benjaminswire.com/ Buy Safe Danger by Ben Swire Learn more about Make Believe Work Connect with the team Follow Chris on Instagram and at chrisduffycomedy.com Buy Chris’ book, Humor Me   Watch How to Be a Better Human videos on YouTube at TEDAudioCollective Follow TED on X , Instagram , Facebook , LinkedIn , and TikTok For the full text transcript, visit go.ted.com/BHTranscripts Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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