# C. Thi Nguyen - How to Stop Playing Someone Else's Game

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Podcast: [How To Academy Podcast](https://stenobird.com/podcast/how-to-academy-podcast-460186)
Published: 2026-03-13T14:32:00+00:00
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## Resource

C. Thi Nguyen considers games of all kinds to be an art form, no less beautiful than cinema, literature, or music: but the qualities that make games aesthetically valuable are very different to those we associate with other media. In this episode of the podcast, he reveals how games create meaning -- and what happens when we apply the logic of game design to real life, in the form of scoring systems that dictate what is and is not good and valuable. Join us and find out how we can begin to reclaim nuance and personal choice from corporations, governments, and bureaucracies gameifying our world. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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